Robo Challenge Tag Team Champs & Power Tool Drag racing!

i can see why people are annoyed, i do wonder why the event is being held alongside the drag racing though, i think we would be doing silverline a favour as without the robot event, they wouldnt get as many entries. im just glad their is a full combat fw arena on the scene, if i had to pay £50 a year to use this arena, i would be happy to pay it, as i imagine the costs of fabricating and maintaining a full combat arena must be higher, but also as it is the only time to get into a full combat arena. But im not really 100 % happy building something i dont wanna build or have little interest in, know nothing about, or have the time to build tbh, i would rather just pay a fee, Im doing it simply because i want to use their arena, and you never know i may enjoy the drag racing. :wink:

the same as if another eo said they would build a full combat arena providing we would pay an annual fee for the privileage of using it,I would be happy to pay it.
but i do sympathize with anyone on a tight budget/low income.
whenever i have been to a event i havent had to pay to enter,Robochallenge,RL or RR events, trophies,my wife and daughter have had free entry to walk around the space centre and so on.... free food, upclose pics of razer, terrohurtz etc... to meet the guys from the tv days, free drinks, and prize money at the end, cant be bad really.. thats why i have always gone out my way to help pack/tidy up.... usually only when i havent had to leave early! :lol:

I was thinking of converting my old 240v 4 grinder (I need a new one anyway) but the design I was thinking of would mean using the outside edge of one of the wooden sides of the track. so it was like a mono rail. :?
Is this allowed and if so can I ask how the track sides are held together? If they have plates holding them together then this may fowl the racer mechanism. :?: :!:

Craig already asked this one. You aren't allowed walls riders.

Thanks that€™s my plan out of the window. :sad: :sad:

I have just tried an old 75mm (Tron type wheel) on the grinder the centrifugal force was enough to separate the tyre from the hub!!! :blush:
I think I will have to work on a gripping solid type wheel. Any ideas as I thing the winner will be the guy with the best traction. :idea:
No saw blades. :shock: :shock:

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What happens if you dont want to build a drag tool.... ( i dont really ).. cant you attend the event?

Ok Answered ! Its a No then.

However.. I asked before....

There's a £4000 prize fund, biggest since robot wars, I thought initially I heard this was for the drag tools... is any now being put towards the robots, unless i misread, it only says trophies for robots.???


In Summary.. Am I correct.

You have to build a drag racer even if you dont want to.
You have to Pay £10 to enter.
There wont be any audience, just roboteers.
Theres no prize money for the Tag team Championships.

I think im with Leo on this one.

John

ooh, didnt realise their is no audience. :sad:

There is an audience, just we are not involved with, or making any money from people entering the haynes motor museum where we'll be situated.

There wont be any money for the tag team champs, although we are working on getting some worthwhile prizes. As of yet we cant promise anything, which is why that is not currently advertised.

cool that will do me, cant wait :proud:

I dont really see a problem. Ill be happy to build one. Dont look at it as having to go to the trouble of building a power tool dragster just to take part in a Robo Challenge event. We are entering a PTDR event and the tag champs is a bit of fun on the side.
Im looking forward to it.

Hi Guys

just got back from a nice weekend away, nice to read this topic and see the different veiws. thanks for voicing them as we now get to understand everybodies oppinions.

Lets just make all clear so people understand exactly the situation and can then decide weather they wish to enter.

- PTDR has been funded and run by Silverline tools for the past 4 years.
- There are usally around 10-15 entries each year in the non ridden catagory. The best of them being ourselfves, John ried, His team mate nick & Ian Lewis.
- Silverline made a decision last year that they want to invest and make this sport a 'big deal'.
- We designed and built the new drag racing system for them.
- We are contracted to run x amount of events and promote the sport to the roboteers specificly.
- The event in september at the haynes motor museum is the biggest of the year and has lots of things to see including the PTDR. The gadget show filmed last year and will be making an entry again this year. We will be on TV :D



We thought what better way to attract roboteers to enter than to host an event there, plus we all get to have another full combat event! :D By doing this we will use up all our budget and will not make any money :( . We could quite happily just put a thread about it on the forum and hand some flyers out to you guys as we would make money and it would be a heck of a lot easier. However we thought you guys would love a nice 2 day event with camping especially when we chucked together our dragster in literally an hour. The stock catagory just needs the plug changing and a stabiliser!

This is The Silverline Power Tool Drag Racing event but weve managed to get our event in as a bonus. Ive twisted silverlines arm so they are paying for our hall hire aswell. Also im trying to get them to provided some tools for people that cannot afford to make a dragster, even though if you think, relitive to just the fuel to get there its cheap. Il keep you updated about this.

We cant afford to give away prize money for the Tag Team Champs as just hosting the event uses up all the budget. As jonno will know putting on events cost big bucksand lots of hard work. The prize money is provided by silverline & as stated, is for the PTDR.

So a round up....

£10 and a couple of hours work gets you...

A weekend of full combat competition in a the Robo Challenge arena!
A weekend of power tool drag racing!
Prize money totaling £4k plus trophies!
Entry into the Haynes Motor Museum.

Thats a pretty good deal and i think silverline have been very generous to provided people with which such a great new oppertunity. As someone said earlier this isnt a complusery event like the FW champs, its because we enjoy full combat :proud: .... But if you would prefer us to print out some flyers do let me know... :lame:

...well...call me an unreformed caveman but my personal opinion is leaning slightly towards the flyers.

I accept your reasons for having this the way it is - I still do think it's a bit of a ridiculous sponsor request, but that's probably due to my na¯vet regarding how robot events work :P - but it still disappoints me greatly, there was nothing in the run up to the announcement to suggest that the drag racing would be a requirement to participate in the main event and it's probably partially my mistake for allowing myself to get excited over what would have been my first event before I knew what the entry requirements were.
I'd have gladly paid five or even ten times the entry fee in the interests of helping you guys to turn a profit and not having to tack it on to the racing, but...the drag racing is just not something that holds any interest for me I'm afraid, it's not really so much an issue of cost as it is of time and general 'botheredness' and as a result this whole affair has left a rather bitter aftertaste, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that.

...there's always Reading in October I guess though...good luck to everyone that goes, and I hope a good time is had by all, but I shall not be attending.

Oh, so its just £10 to enter both the racing and the champs?

Or £10 to enter the champs, and £10 for the drag-racing entry? (under the entry fees section on the PTDR rules page of your website)

I thought it was the latter at first, but since you've worded it £10 and a couple of hours work gets you etc, just thought I'd ask for clarification :wink:

And on the mention of camping, is there likely to be a dedicated campsite, or are there just several locations nearby?

Thanks

Woo camping!!! Game of poker and ring of fire anyone? :D

Yaaas, Ring of Fire for the win! 8)

Sorry it has put you off Joey, It really isnt alot of work to change a plug on a belt sander and send it down the track. Its actually great fun aswell.

Must make this clear is that this is an event organised by silverline, the robots and drag racing organised by both ourselves and silverline. They are not mearly sponsoring it so it is very reasonable that if they are putting up so much prize money, paying for the hall, and giving us an oppertunity to host an event they arnt asking for much.

Yes Jamie £10 and a couple hours gets you all. its not £10 for each comp. Looking into the camping situation at the moment but will probably recommend the one we stay at.

i will read the ruls when i got time,
ok i got a few old cordless drills about, can i put 2 of them together, put a wheel on each chuck. with a couple of wheels on the front, plug in some 36v batts, and control it with radio gear. or do you have to use 240v?

think in the rules it says no radio gear can be used

Adrian, as alex said, you can't use radio controlled equiptment. You are allowed to use other powered tools other than 240v, but it has to by activated by 240 if you get what i mean.
So, for example,
You can turn on the drills using a 240v solenoid of some form. It needs to be this way as the timing equiptment runs off the instant the 240v supply is activated. If you dont use that, the timing will nort work, and reaction times will not be recorded etc.

I'll do some research on some 240v solenoids, or some other means of switching it on.

grant/james
how many people enter the ridden 1

I think there were ten last year, although this year there should be alot more!

ok well will be signing up tonight :)
Beauty 2 & RIP will have to be there (dont know why ;) )lol

Beauty iv and hopefully Explosion

and a dragster (no name yet) but is looking like Beauty ;)

As im part of the beauty team, does that mean i dont have to build one ? :)

I will also most probably have stripper 2 ready by then, but need a driver and a partner for it !! :)

Teambud will be entering the super mod drag racing and the ride on. Good to hear you are doing 1 too Lear it will be good competition. well it wont cos we will make a better ride on than yours. Not letting on about our ride on but i tell you this..... it will be to the max..... and i am not lying. it will actually make a nice change to build something other than a robot. We are excited and looking forward to the event.

Bring it Learo you are going DOWNNNNNN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! :lol:


:crazy:

tried to sign up but theres a problem :(

ill try again in mornings

but its Beauty and RIP

and Beauty iv with explsion

and a modded dragster

dont 4get the ride on dad

Mr lear, get it right please.... Rip-Evo

:)

oh sorry beauty2 and Rip Evo then

going to loose any ways LOL

360 will be there teamed up with savage evo if toms still alright with that. 2x Horizontal spinners = win.

hmm Nasty

Looking forward to fighting the pair of you,can you bring along a bucket and shovel for me please? :mrgreen:

Sorry Dave its gonna be the scottish vert spinners that will take this event by storm.

New batteries, new speedos, new relays.........as ever, new insides and a new paint job outside.........hornets gonna be top notch and I'm trying to convince Jamie to get some A123s in Drumroll :)

Gary,
ed gave me db5's old disc.. (the same as you use in hornet).. the other day.. turns out when 360 hit it the 12mm hardox disc got bent by 20mm..i had a little nick out of mine so im not to worried lol gotta order 360s new speedos and maybe a bigger battery.. If i get a 6c pack ill be running 200% more power :twisted:

Don't need much convincing personally to go A123 - its more a case of convincing my bank balance, which will be being raped by petrol money for this event :)

Drumroll will be running a brushless weapon setup but I'll have the trusty Speed 900s on hand as back-up incase there's too much stress on the motor or the speedo burns out or whatever.

Last time Hornet did all the work while Drumroll failed in epic proportions but I'm gonna have it pulling its weight this time with a new chassis, invertibility, better manoeuvreability and speed and sexy gyroscopic dancing 8)

which esc you using with that motor jamie? doubt that one you lent me is going to cut it for very long tbh. A123's suck the future is lipo.

Yeah its the one I lent you Dave - the only reason I'm running it is, frankly, because it was free (thanks to Kenny). If I didn't have either the motor or speedo I'd still be on the 900s because I can't afford top-of-the-range brushless bits at the mo.

I'll give it a run out in testing and battles and if it fails I'll just throw the Speed 900/Victor 885 combo in there to replace it. That, coupled with the Nimhs, does enough to be competitive, even though there's plenty more potential to come from it. If I'm running A123s by then, it'll be a bonus for the Speed 900 setup. Lipos hurt the wallet more :(

yeah true, have you done any spin up tests yet of that motor? be interesting to see how fast it spins up.

Very unsafe spin-up tests, that involved me holding the motor in my hand with a belt running to the drum. Because of that I didn't crank it up to full pelt straight away, I just let it build gradually - got to half throttle and started to get a bit worried about losing fingers so left it at that :)

Gonna wait till I've got it properly mounted before running full tests, but I don't see it being as quick as the Speed 900s, so I might need to get Hornet to lead the line while the drum builds speed :)

Well i hope we draw beauty first, didnt get to fight it at uk champs and i was looking forward to fighting it. Then we can take out those scottish lads with there lil vert spinners :rofl:

With exception of dear Savage Evo, my record against horizontals is pretty good so I fancy my chances :)
Add Hornet into the mix and you pesky horizontals are going down! [/trash-talk]

As much as Savage Evo/360 vs Hornet 2/Drumroll in a tag match would make for one hell of a viewing experience, shouldn't we all be ganging up on those damn flippers! Can't let them win this time :lol:

Well yea. Kill the flippers first. Can we at least try to cut through a CO2 bottle this time? That would look awsome.
But when it comes down to Drumroll and Hornet 2 Vs Savage and 360 in the final (yeah thats right 4 spinners in the final, whos gunna stop us? A flipper? I think not :mrgreen: ) its going to be Horizontal Spinners FTW!
I gotta admit ill be hiding behind 360 most of the time but thats not cos im scared... Honest :roll: (maybe just a lil scared)