Is that a resignation speech then Andy?:)
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Is that a resignation speech then Andy?:)
Im not suggesting that at all, Im just voicing my support for Ed. The committee deal with things as they see fit, I was just saying that Ed would be barred from applying for the position because of his previous dealings with the committee.
I also believe there is something going on that we dont know about. I have spoken to ED on msn and have given my position and where i stand. I said to him that if there were any sort of corruption then i would make it clear and expose it on the forum.
I dont know if it true or not but i believe there is something going onregarding EDs campaign. Lets face it there was a nice election going on and suddenly ED pops up and there is disrupption. There was what seemed to be Tim Bence being biased toward Ed on the voting going on which i whitnessed. Others MUST agree with me on this one.
If i were banned from the fra i would be quiet and proove myself that i have changed. then i would apply to the fra to ask to be reinstated as a fra member. then i would prove to everyone that i had good intentions. after a while i would if i felt it right at the time run for a rep.
Ed has been quiet for ages but to come in with a bid for the president of the fra......it just doesnt seem right. i believe there are a certain few who want to take over the fra and ruin the whole sport because they wouldnt have the sport at heart, just selfish reasons of power.
Mike you are i think being biased toward ED by campaigning for him. I therefore will be behind Kane Aston and his campaign. he has been doing robots since day 1 and he has earnt his place by being the most unbiased person i have ever met and its he who will take the sport forward and i will back him all the way. i will stand by Kane Aston and no-one else. I have made my choice and thats where i stand.
Andy i have had harsh words with you in the past and i thankyou for putting up with me. you have done a great job on the committee and from what i have seen you are actually fair in what you do. and yes i did have my doubts but now i wish you were stopping on.
Sorry Ed but your campaigning on msn to get me on your side hasnt worked. nice try.
If you knew what i knew then you would vote Kane Aston for the chairmans job and Geoff Smith for president.
I hope everyone votes with the sport at heart and not just for power and vengence.
2, Mr Hoppitt is trying to organise an event this year
I am informed that there is evidence to support the above statment until its seen, I cannot inform you whether its a true allegation or a false one.
Maybe the committee should ask Ed wether it is true before making a final decision on this. If it is true then the rules have to be followed, Im sure Ed will understand this even if he disagrees.
their is talking the talk, and walking the walk.
i have read everything above and on EDs site, and even though i dont know Mr Hoppit he wouldnt get my vote. it would take a bit more than a fancy write up to get my vote. and for whatever reason he is banned from the forum i cant vote for someone who from my part has had so little input recently? perhaps im missing something? i agree that he should of held his hands up (if he did anything wrong) or at least tried to wipe the slate clean to get back on the forum and win peoples confidence, not jump in head first. that type of person couldnt get my vote. sorry.
Currently i agree with shane,GOD i cant believe i just said that :lol: and i know exactly where my vote is going!
VOTE Kane and Geoff
(Message edited by ady on February 01, 2009)
Faints :crazy:
ha :rofl:
dno who im votin gonna have to see how much kane wants it :P lol
Well ive kept away from all of this mainly because of the main reason of: Im no longer a roboteer to be fair.
I dont compete anymore... i dont get a buzz from fighting.. but i do get a buzz from the building of the robots/effects etc... so I€™m part of the effects and media crew of Roaming Robots as its what i do best in my current real job back here in Worcester and also what i plan to move towards in more depth in the future of my life.
But i will say... ive been part of the main roboteering when it first realllly kicked off, end of Series 4 when live events took part around the UK outside mentorn... ive know every roboteer and been invovled in 99% of major projects from working backstage at Robot Wars.. Technogames, XFM, Robot Rumble, UK Robotic Games and currently Roaming Robots.
To say i dont care what happens with roboteering and FRA and Roboteers would be false as i do as its something which has helped me grow and been a great part of my life and im over the moon to see and meet some new great teams like Psycho Fling, Toon, Shock etc etc as it really is a great collective of people and it was a shame to see it split last year. Anyway. again id be lying if i dont care what happens as i do.. and to be fair the 2 main people who are up for it that i think will bring this sport/hobby forward in the right direction would be Kane and Geoff.
I truly beleive Kane and Geoff will take it forward in the right manor and are the right roboteers to do it. Good luck to them, they have my vote!!
Mr Stu
VOTE KANE AND GEOFF
Shane, and everybody else, I am not biased in any way shape or form, I have taken the objective veiw that, given the chance, he would make a good president.
Shane, you have posted vote for Kane Aston on various places on the forum, does that make you biased? It would certainly be considered campaigning for him.
I have no problem with your actions, you are merely showing your support for Kane.
Finally there is no club, clique, conspiracy or hidden agenda as far as I am concerned.
Everybody should vote according to their conscience for who they believe is right for the jobs available and not be swayed by the opions (however genuine) of others.
Mike i totally agree with you and dont think i am against your views because i really do think you have the sport at heart which it good. if you know me by now i do stupid pranks like that. dont take them personally its a campaign and doesnt reflect on how i feel about you personally. Yes on this campaign i am biased toward Kane Aston because you yourself said you felt it was ok to back someone who would be right for the job.
I feel you would do a good job but i feel Kane would do a better job. He has been doing robots since day 1. I even watched the first wars today with my 2 boys and there was the first Behemoth.
Mike Hamilton....Registered 05-2007
Kane Aston ......Registered 10-2003
He just deserves the job more than anyone and being there right from the beginning until now just shows he is committed to the sport.
Thanks for that endorsement Shane, I know Kane has been in roboting a long time,I like the guy and get on well with him, but I did not start in 2007, that is when I joined the forum.
I started building Pressure mk1 for Robot Wars series 4 but didnt finish it til series 6 extreme 1 (got to a heat final, lost on judges decision).
We entered series 7 with the mk2 but did not get through the qualifying rounds we have been doing live events every year since then with the mk3 and now the mk4 as well as Skink, the boxers and Puck.
http://www.robowars.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1321http://www.robowars.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1321
Sorry if i implied you started robots in 2007. I knew you have been doing it longer than that but my point was that he has been on the FRA since the beginning. He has been doing robots from the beginning. Not sure if he was on the committee from the start but i will get clarification on this point i am sure.
His committment was my agenda in the previous post.
Say no more eh
No worries Shane.
Many thanks Woody
Shane, Mike,
From the minutes of meetings published on this website, the FRA was started on 20/9/03 and had an interim self elected governing body until the 1st membership elections in which Kane was elected to a place of the committee - the result of that election was minuted in the meeting held on 24/4/04. For the record, Geoff also took office at the same time.
Only Andy and Tony Somerfield have served on the committee for longer.
Yeah pretty much since the beginning
Well Woodys post pointing to Eds event on the australian website is solid proof that the current committee acted in the right way without bias and is infact a democratic organisation.
No worries
I hate to say it but I agree with you Shane. The rule is there so shouldnt be broken for anyone. What if Ed stops organising this event and passes control to someone else? Just a question as I have no insight into this event.
In the interests of being totally fair I feel that I should post this link provided to me by Ed.
http://www.teamstorm.com/fra/eo.htmhttp://www.teamstorm.com/fra/eo.htm
Do you know what I€™ve just laughed my socks off at this mess€¦.
Maybe this will be my first post which will be removed, however I€™ve been quiet for too long !!
After the last FRA meeting I left with a real positive attitude about the future for the UK.
Ed for president€¦, what a joke !!! I€™m sorry but has the world gone mad, people are supporting it???? They obviously haven€™t been involved with him€¦ yet !! Don€™t worry you€™ll get bitten.
He is one of the most destructive people in the robot community, and where there has been trouble in the past , you€™ll bet he€™s in amongst it !!
Don€™t get me wrong, he means well, but I think his business approach to life is very much flawed, and certainly doesn€™t get much respect from me.
The sad part is that people are so two faced that they don€™t dare speak out, well I€™m bored of all this creeping around and its about time the truth came out, well as much as ill say on a public form with the fear of being sued€¦. But everyone knows my number if you want to hear some facts.
And all this support€¦ LMAO !!! :rofl:
Just reading through his website€¦ where did those endorsements come from€¦. Different to conversations I€™ve had with more than one of them in the not so distant past.
On the running straight for president issue, it doesn€™t matter if he is or isn€™t an event organiser€¦.. he€™s banned for god sake€¦ doesn€™t that tell you something€¦.. and banned for a reason !!
Here€™s a scenario for you€¦. I go out one night and I kill someone€¦.. I go to jail€¦.. 15 years later I come back out after some good behaviour, do I€¦.. a) try and show that I have reformed my character, do I do some volunteer work, help the aged€¦ and gradually work my way into society€¦.. or b) run for priminister? Easy answer I think you€™ll agree.
Also€¦..
a) I work very closely with Geoff Thorpe€¦. Who has read what€™s going on, ( yes another person who has felt his bite before and even went so far to ban him from attending his event ) and instantly we spoke about it, and he himself HAS been in direct communication with ED, I don€™t know the exact details as he says they are confidential, but he has confirmed to me that even on January 13th 2009, the event is still happening, and he still wanted him to grant a licence to use the Robot Wars trade mark.
b) In Ireland, in a reluctant conversation with Alan Young, he admitted that they had been booked to run the event with Ed Hoppitt.
c) And now we have further evidence to suggest this
It doesnt matter even if he now says the event has been cancelled, or hes not running it anymore... what a coincedence.... He in my eyes is STILL an event organisor, and all this crap about not being interested in organising an event..... what a load of nonsence !
Is this the workings with everything considered of your new FRA president, no it is another example of how someone can twist the truth, lie, and manipulate people to his own gain.
Let me put it bluntly€¦. If Ed gets anyway near the FRA€¦.. I€™m off, and I know so are a lot of other people !! The last 18 months have been bliss without him.
HEAR HEAR TO THE EXISTING COMMITTEE€¦ A JOB WELL DONE IN FENDING HIM OFF !!
John
Someone who IS actively driving roboteering forward around the WORLD
JONNO FOR PRESIDENT!!!!
I know he cant be but still
Jonno For President!!!!!!!
Just to clarify Jonnos post. We were approached by Robot Arenas Ltd for a qoute to provide an arena. We have supplied them with this but have yet to here back and no booking has been made.
ok Alan,
Im not wanting to implicate you in anything... nothing against you.... its by the by now.
John
There is, of course, the reason why it all started in the 1st place - that was the fact that the FRA President Manifesto email sent on 31/1/09 was nothing more than spam and I and many others objected most strongly to our personal details being exploited in such a manner.
Edit: Which was clearly for personal gain
(Message edited by anukhet on February 01, 2009)
Swanny, you have mail :wink:
o jonno i do love you
craig danby! on the aussie forum ur so wrong! heavys r the true weight!
iv dominated feathers for 2 long and will do for many more years to come with beauty 2
heavys is so much harder in competition its alot harder to dominate, iron awe is doing a great job and has prob done the best for a heavy for as long as i can remember but it will do some beatin to beat what beauty has done :P
but ye HEAVYS is the best weight division
I never said feathers were the best I said feathers are the true world weight division, which is true in the sense that more countries run feathers than heavies
nooooo
heavys will ALWAYS be the true weight :)
but feather numbers are rapidly growing which is good but build some heavys people :)
I salute Jonno for his courage in saying what has been overdue for being made public for a very long time. His strong views are shared by a significant number of respected members of the community.
Feathers are the F1 division of robot wars and are way advance compared to heavyweights. beside heavies only play :P lol that should get it stired up!
Having read eds site it is a proffesional approach which highlights current problems and how to resolve them. Many of the things on there have already been discussed by the FRA but no action taken. If i were running as a candidate i would look very closly at the site. We need somebody (whoever it is) to be active.
Does Geoff have any visions, tasks and solutions to current issues that he wishes to share with us all so we the membership can make an educated decission as to who we want to vote for? At the moment i feel as though i cant vote for anybody as i dont know anybodies aims...
I agree james.
Im looking forward to reading candidates visions for the future and where they see things going, at the moment noone can really vote as they havent had all the facts to make a rash decision.
I think the FRA should do the following...
1)It should Archive all of the previous messey discussion. Things have been sidetracked.
2)It should set up one thread..... and each candidate gets one chance to sell himself/herself. One central focus point for us to read which is easy to follow.... A list of the candidates nominated, ( is there anyone standing against geoff? ) and their respective words.
3)Set up another thread named election chat .
4)Moderate these threads ( within reason )to keep them on track and dont let them be side tracked at all.
Then the community can make a decision based on facts given to them.
Or.... just make me president !! :rofl:
On a serious note though, the committee do have to take note of the things Ed has written about, many of the items have already been discussed within the FRA, and maybe nothing has been done. I am hoping the new committee will not have to spend their time fighting off conspiricy theory threats and allocations, and more time focusing on whats important.. and thats moving forward and getting things done!!
John
http://www.RoamingRobots.co.ukwww.RoamingRobots.co.uk
Eds standing against Geoff isnt he? If hes not organising an event (http://www.teamstorm.com/fra/eo.htmhttp://www.teamstorm.com/fra/eo.htm - and thats what stopped him being a candidate) then surely he should be allowed back as a candidate?
I put my support on Eds website because of the things he planned to do and because I believed he would actually get those things done!
I am gratified to see that some of his fearsest critics agree with me. I do not have any facts of what has gone on in the past and based my decision on what I have seen myself in the last few years.
There are, no doubt, some that will tar me with the same brush that has been used on Ed so I dont expect to get elected.
However, If I am I will do everything I can to keep the FRAs aims on track and not let proceedings get bogged down by any personal grudges, infighting or dragging up of the past, as far as Im concerned the FRA will not have a reverse gear!
As to me personally, I am my own man, I will not be brow beaten, led or pushed by anyone else.
I will listen, take note and be the voice of the whole community to my best ability.
You get my vote Mike
Should be fiercest not fearsest! Doh!
Its great to see that so many have such strong views. The FRA needs roboteers opinions to form decisions and shape the future going forward.
Now that election nominations are closed I will shortly be posting my goals for 2009/2010 in time for the voting emails to go out.
Mike... I commend you for standing and basing your judgement on facts youve been given, however there are a number of us im sure will disagree.
Good luck in your campaign, I havent decided who I will vote for, like you, it will be on the facts im given, I dont doubt you will push things forward.
Even if you dont make chairman, I do hope that you feel strong enough to make the change that you stand for a roboteers rep.
Dave, I think your missing something.... read above.... Even if he now cancels the event.... do you not see that he is an event organisor.... he has had interest in organising an event.
Does that mean I can hand over Roaming Robots to someone, and stand for President myself? Maybe its a tempting thought !!
John
Thanks Jonno, As you are probably aware I am going to Whitwick (snow permitting!), I am also going to try to get to Barnsley (cash permitting!) I would be glad to talk to you in person or anyone else there for that matter, Mike.