but can other weights still enter?
Printable View
but can other weights still enter?
?
all weights listed above can enter, from raptor to heavyweight.
i will be putting information for roboteers on the website after new year, so if you are planning to bring robots to this event, please check out http://www.xbotz.comwww.xbotz.com in the new year for info.
there will also be updates emailed to anyone who has expressed interest on this thread.
so far, all weight classes have at least 2 robots signed up (im refering to light and middleweights there, as heavy and feather are much more popular), and all have spaces left.
more info in 2007.
(Message edited by jamesb on December 18, 2006)
james, i will be looking to bring my heavy plus a feather,
james please put down my robot Envy and jason with Thor. Envy a front hinge flipper and Thor a bad ass hammer :)
looking forward to seeing both robots running.
cheers shane
Feather Weight KX will be ready by then.
Mr Stu
oo... more good news.
cheers stu
hi guys, first update of 2007
raptors - registration is going well, still more invited though.
Feathers - we have a lot of very nice robots coming, we may need to put on special prizes for this class.
lightweights - surprisingly popular, even though our heaviest lightweight currently signed up is just under 14kg. this may be worth unofficially capping at 13.6kg to allow all you fat feathers to run legally (you know who you are ) unless I get request to the contrary.
middleweights - we need more signups please, only enough for one melees worth at the moment.
heavyweights - looking very good.
arena - nothing has been done over christmas/new year, but it is coming along nicely. Definatly unique!
there will be updates on the website in february, until then Ill put all you need to know right here :)
James, can i enter one robot in more than one weight class? If so put Mr Happy in lightweights aswell as featherweights.
It Currently weighs 12.05kg, but i can add some hardox lids and run in the lightweight division aswell if allowed.
ive been asked this before actually.
In the interests of keeping it simple to follow, and keeping me sane (ish) id have to say no. sorry.
but why not enter the lightweights anyway? or enter an old retired bot in one, and mr happy in the other?
Because i only have two robots and Turbulence is to big to go in the lightweight devision :lame:
Nevermind:)
I can confirm there will be a minimum prize fund of £250 for this event.
We havent decided how to allocate it yet though.
options?
5 weight classes, 5 prize funds of at least £50 each?
all cash for heavy? prizes for rest?
just heavy and feather (dont like that one)
what would you guys like (please dont say £250 per weight class, im working on that, but for now its the total in the pot)
or, what about prizes and trophies for each class winner, with the £250 going to the overall most entertaining/sporting robot/team of the event? sort of an outstanding contribution award? maybe split this over the 2 days?
just ideas, you guys tell me what you would like.
Hmm, Id personally opt to go with the £50 for each weight class, that way everyone is competing for an equal prize regardless of what weight class theyre entered in and there cant be any accusations of lack of support for the less populated weight groups.
James, a suggestion. Divide the money by the number of robots and split it into the 5 weights dependant on number of robots.
great idea Ed
Ill prob leave this decision to the last minute, as the fund will vary up to the last day.
the overall most entertaining/sporting robot/team of the event?
No. I thought it was a competition?
it is, but why do the same format every time?
the winners still get prizes, and trophies, I just thought it might be nice to have seperate awards for those who may not win, but contribute most?Or the most sporting? etc.
but anyway, if that is what people want Ill give the whole prize fund to winners only
James,
Its your event, If you want to award prizes to those who you think contribute to the events sucess then do so. Remember MOST of us dont do this for any prize money, but for FUN of taking part in our hobby... Win or loose!
maybe i should offer more prizes instead then? maybe spend the prize fund on robot bits as prizes?
maybe a sidewinder as heavy prize, scorpion XL as feather etc.... or vouchers for my store or technobots?
what do you think?
I thought you ment one or the other James.
yeah, prizes for being good sports etc aswell would be good.
we are planning to introduce a new cadet class ruleset at this event for schools and youth organizations in north wales. no spinners, no co2, no metal chassis, armour or weapons. Anyone any opinions? if people like it ill put it to the fra to see if they will endorse it
James do you not think that running multiple Cadet Class rulesets will just get confusing ?
... perhaps not calling it Cadet Class might help ?
Ed
http://www.teamstorm.comhttp://www.teamstorm.com
James, why dont you speak to Ed, jonno, Paul Cooper and James and between everyone come up with a good rule set for this kind of thing? Considering most of them do the school building anyway it could be useful to have them all the same.
Ed has a good rule set for his more basic feathers that could be easily adapted.
Ed has a good rule set for his more basic feathers that could be easily adapted.
if i agreed with that i wouldnt have written my rules. no offense to Ed, bu Id prefer if the schools I work with didnt have hardox armoured spinners, whats cadet about that?
why dont you speak to Ed, jonno, Paul Cooper and James and between everyone come up with a good rule set for this kind of thing?
lol, yeah, right, that would work. My rules are in schools already, and are not changing. The question was, would the FRA concider adopting them, which was also a suggection that XFM may concider using them instead of your current rules, which basically ban scoprion but not much else. in what crazy world an ev warrior powered all hadox macine can be concidered cadet is beyond me, but hey, if the rules work....
No offense meant, I was just asking if anyone here wanted to use the rules, guess not.
1. Create a new thread for discussion.
2. Post the rules you propose.
Last time I saw the cadet rules posted, motor power was limited to 150W (isnt an EV more than this?), spinning masses were restricted to 1kg, and hardox armour was certainly off the menu - I thought that was still the case?
As Kane says though, are you able to post the rules you use in schools, just to get an overview?
quote:
no metal chassis, armour or weapons
I can see the reasoning behind this but I think you need to be allowed to use some sort of metal (to me it doesnt really feel like a robot if I dont use metal to some degree :)) at least in the weapon systems anyway. From what I can gather, without metal the materials are limited to wood, poly, or similar, but if someone makes a crushing bot for this class, theyre gonna need the structural strength of metal (at least on the claw/jaws) to stand any chance of being effective. Even if you allow aluminium and (possibly old computer desk) steel to be used, the bots could still sustain damage (they wouldnt be completely invincible as they almost would be with hardox) and the feeling of robot fighting - metal crashing off metal - will still be there.
Just my two pennies worth
ill post the rules in the next few day.
as to the metal for crusher this is the beauty of the rules. If you want to build a crusher, the other robot is only plastic, but then so are you! so there is no huge advantage.
axe power is limited by the fact your axe is plastic, rammers must be careful not to break themselves.
All of the engineering challenges we face with metal robots dont change with the plastic ones, they are still there, its just a schoolkid will fing it harder to chop his/her fingers off. Im sure they will find new and exciting ways to hurt themselves, but in principal it is safer.
Polycarb is not the only plastic by the way, a whole new world of materials is just waiting for you in this area.
basic motor rules (as ive not access to my removable hard-drive to gve you full rules)
drill motors up o and including 550 size.
ANY standard motor from a mass produced standard car. (make believe astroflights from the seat mech in your mclaren F! are not allowed :) )
yes, you can use the massive fan motors, or starter motors, but remeber, your robot is plastic...... it will break
I may rethink the name of the class if people here like it. any suggestion? Ed did make one suggestion, buy I dont think I can post the word crappy :)
How about Student Class ? Or Pupil Class ?
I doubt they would be happy with N00bie Class however...:proud:
Were currently looking at the Cadet Class situation. Its been promoted to schools but the recent arena guideline changes would mean that we cant run Cadet Class in the XFM arena which gives us a small issue !
Ed
http://www.extremefightingmachines.comhttp://www.extremefightingmachines.com
I am starting on the door panels for the arena in a few days. My proposed design would be as strong as any part of the arena, but I am left with a door of 1 meter wide, by 1 meter high.
If any robot you know of would have difficulty entering and leaving the arena through a 1m x 1m door, please let me know and ill go to the backup design. It should be as strong, but is a lot more work, so Id prefer option 1.
also, is everyone ok to negotiate a shallow entry/exit ramp?
cheers
(Message edited by jamesb on January 27, 2007)
Ripper?
ok, I have a ripper, will anyone raise me a TAN or Kan-opener?
come on guys, I need to know for sure, is 1 meter square ok?
Speak now or forever hold your peace.
(Message edited by jamesb on January 29, 2007)
Is there an area for activation / deactivation seperate from the main arena or is the only access via this door?
I would take the safer option of making the bigger door.
Allthough the FRA rules dont limit the size of a robot most people built to the old robotwars wars size limit, which if I remember was 1.2m wide, so this would be a safer option.
Ive put Turbulence in the old Robochallenge arena with Ed a few times when that had a one metre square (ish) door, it was awkward. And Turbulence isnt the biggest of machines. (800mm wide x 1000mm long)
How do you plan to arm up the robots? Put one robot in, arm it up, drive it away, put the 2nd in, arm it up, drive it away etc? Or are you having two doors?
Would it be that hard to make it abit bigger?
The biggest a robot can be according to the rules is 1.4metre square. (if i remeber correctly?) So atleast make it big enough to fit that + the arms of the people putting the robot in.
I pressume you have designed the arena in some sort of CAD. Willing to show us all a preview?
My 2p
How exactly do we load through this door? what about carrying/lifting it through? Is the only access into arena?
Beat me to it Mark :) 1.2 not 1.4 then
TAN is 1.16 meters if I remember correctly.