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Ahhhh pictyres that would show off the weaknesses! Hehe no seriously, most of the updates are written during my tea break when I don't actually have it to hand to take the pics, will do however, as pictures are good.
Will add pics in he next post to follow all the work done before
look forward to the photos,
Side question have you looked at Team Run Amock hammer calc ? http://runamok.tech/AskAaron/tools.html
not sure how accurate it is as a brushless set i punched into it (practicing my CAD fu) and got a energy out of over 400 joules, where my current on is only 15 ish.
So some developments.
As its been the Easter break i thought i would do a bit of construction to the robot. noting time is getting on, and im hoping to compete at Portsmouth.
Firstly, i had a rethink on the chassis, and although im happy with the majority of it, im thinking the main rib which stretches along the back, effectively strengthening the 2 halves together, is currently 12mm HDPE. i have decided to make this 20mm which will give a great big lump of support. The rest of the chassis im happy with as it wil be clad in 3mm Hardox, so i think this is ok.
This means i had to set up my other larger bed mill to machine the new plate. 1 more ebay shed in the garden later, and i now have it set up. sadly as the night was drawing in, i couldnt really start buzzing up and making it. so it was on with the electronics.
Great, i thought, now i can program both my ESC. Plug in my USBasp or my USBTiny into the PC and AVRDUDE, well well well, something is not going well... turns out i cannot get the devices to configure with this software properly.
Having said that, i do feel that i did actually get it to work, but by using the software from the brushed launchpad site, it failed to control the motors.
Anyway, i tried using Atmel studio 4/5/6 but as these devices are not configured to work with this program, and the stk5000 or whatever it was failed to work for me, i asked around to see if anyone had a programmer, the nice AVRISP blue device MK2? as this worked. sadly no one was available, Thank you Chris for offering to borrow yours!!
in the end, my impatience got the best of me, and as i had prime on amazon, i decided to spend some more money and grab one for myself. Luckily it arrived on Saturday and the amazon delivery person left it on my doorstep.
I then spent the next 10 minutes making the correct cable to connect my Hobbyking Atmel chip programming tool to the 6 pin cable from the device, and e viola (??) plugged it in, got the hex file and BOOM! programmed!
plugged it into motor and RX and nothing...
After testing, i decided to get the Spectrum hex file from the programming thread and BOOM downloaded (love having the correct tool for the job!) Connected it all up and Whhirrrrrrrrrr YES!!! we have movement and speed control!
After an ebay purchase week before last, i am now the owner of a 24v HIWIN electric actuator, the 100mm stroke at 25mm/s one. Love it, it is 40mm wide so fits nicely between my 2 halves of my robot, and the idea is that i can use this for a lifter if i feel the need to do so if the axe doesnt work out. I still have to build the plates for the axe, and am looking to get some chain sprockets for this as apposed to gears and timing belt. Im hoping that the gear ratio im thinking about is still possible within the frame i have. It was designed to be ok, so hoping.
I was also thinking, that i could easily have the axe, flipper as replacement bitsv - heaviest setup will be the axe. But, i could swap them out if i needed. Then i thought, if i have a motor there onto gears, could i have a small spinning disk? hey why not. So first thing first...v get the axe sorted.
what i will do, is add on an extra 5 mm to the width of the gap in between, so luckily i do have to machine a new rib from 20mm anyway.
The hardox armour has been made for the back, not looking great but i can tidy this up. it was a bit of a faff as using slightly curved hardox taken from Hard-Ox shell, but i have been able to work with it.
The side armour one needs a trim back, and i did weld the other side, but as i didnt CAD (Cardboard Aided Design) it, i have got the sizes a bit wrong, so will have to angle grind the welds off again and rebend/shape/weld with the aid of cardboard templates.
the front wedge plates need to be cut and welded in place to the sides, and mounting points worked out drilled and sorted.
Then the base...
I been trying to get to our scrappy to see what titanium plate they have, but each time i go they dont have anything or its all been taken away. so have decided to go for 10mm HDPE as this seems to be a popular choice - any recommendations greatly received.
I cannot machine this on my current router, so im hoping to be able to modify it and make it bigger, or get it cut outside using a work contact. As this is 10mm and not the originally designed 6mm material, i will have to modify all the finger joints on the existing parts to get it to fit.
Wow... so quite a lot to do then.... Now i must sleep, and plan tomorrows lunchtime activities!
pictures:
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Some more developments,
I finally decided on the axe mech transmission.
Originally looking at timing belt and gears in a 2 stage gear reduction. As I needed to order some bits for work I was able to add on some bits, my additional cost mind.
I decided due to the strength and how much these will be bashed, to go for chain and sprocket, hurrah! I decided to go for 8mm pitch and again the space requirements dictate a 2 stage gear reduction. 1:1.25 then 1:3.66 or something. Due to the location of he gears I have to do it this way meaning first stage is 8 tooth to 10 tooth just to get the space to enable the 2nd stage to get the centre of axe rotation in correct place.
Hoping that once the Portsmouth event is done, I can upgrade to brushless axe drive so my space can be managed better.
So finally I now have some sprockets on their way from BelringOnline and chain from simply bearings. Was the cheaper options then buying from single store, and simply didn't sell the correct pitch sized sprockets.
Will see about using my electronic esc or am Rc switch relay for driving the axe, shall see when it's here next week.
Sadly i missed the postie over the weekend, but in the end my parts didnt come then.
So today, UK mail tried to deliver the gears to my home address as i was out at woirk, will have to get them resent.
These parts being... my pulleys for the 2 stage gearing for the axe. I did hoiwever receive my chain to my work address so i have 5m of 8mm 'scooter' chain as it is commonly reffered to in these parts.
Im looking forward to getting the gears then i can progress with the axe mech.
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Looks like someone had a fun night :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Roboteernat
That's either pocket writing, you got drunk or you rolled your face across the keyboard in an attempt to become a little bit of a meme, haha.
Hey...... That was not me!
Tho merry cake does sound tasty! lol
And this does sound like a name of my robot... Llolikoil!
Go home Nat your drunk :rofl:
Anyway how is bot ?
Unfortunatly i didnt have any tipples this weekend, well since glass of red last monday :) plus i was upstairs asleep at 5am :)
I will have words with my cat, i recon he must have been wanting to play the fish cat game lol
I do have some updates and after eaten lunch will update :) (with pictures too woo!)
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So update.
I managed to machine my new main spar rib for the chassis, however it turns out I didn’t increase the length by 5mm to allow my electric Ram to fit nicely, so I may have to get some more material to machine some new spares, however having fitted this new one, it does feel a lot stronger and less prone to snapping in half...
I have also ground down the 2 front plates for the wedge. I’m liking the angle of attack on them but still lacking effective mounting for them, need to machine some more aluminium bars for this. Job for tomorrow lunch maybe...
The motor for the axe mech and the gears have been test fitted and it’s looking like a nice machine, however the gearing ratio may not be the bes being 1:5 so have to test and see what speed and power I get from it.
My anti spark XT connector arrived so need to add that sim to the electronics and cut the hole out to mount the link connectors.
With this goes mounting some extra wedge pieces to the side to allow the side armour to mount correctly.
I will weld the front wedge to the side, so maintenance process will start from removing the side of hardox to get access.
I like this as it also allows for several fixings to be made to the armour plates at different angles and places so it’s less likely to get ripped off.
Still to do...
Machine the base plate. I need to decide if I will add the 5mm into the rib as this will lbs affect the base plate.
Add separating HdPE barrier and location hole for 5e battery. Currently single 4s 3300mah. Should be ok...
Mount armours
Make side mounts and thread
Countersink all holes
Remake the left hand thread bolts for mounting wheels as 8 need longer length.
Oh and make axe, mount chain cogs and make bracket to mount weapon motor...
Not much then...
Light... I’m thinking of side-lighting some polycarbonate in the middle of the robot, so it glows a nice red or something but means the LEDs are away from danger but looks good.
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Having 5e LEDs here however may not be seen if the Ram is fitted.
May have to rethink this...
Current weigh-in......
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Surprisingly only 10.5kg!
Plenty of room for bolts and some more HDPE panels, and base!
Well. I managed to watch some of the battle vids from Manchester and came to the conclusion that my 12mm hdpe needs to be beefed up in places, so I'm considering g upping the thickness in certain sections of my design.
I think I will also add hard sections to underside of chasing to strengthen the wedge edge, and add additional screw fixings to the sides and rear armour as I'm sure these will be where I will be hit from by a spinner.
I can also see myself being taken out by a spinner attacking the rear exposed section of the wheels so as I don't actually need these to be exposed I may add a hard ox cover assuming weight allows.
In other news... I powered up my initial electrical setup, bodged at most before I fully wire up everything g.
Here is a link to my video of it driving, not great as my trims and mixing have not been St and one of he wheels wasn't actually screwed on, more of a self ooh I can wiggle the motors kinda test...
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...0&id=285901821
So, will main out some bits and see what happens
One question tho...
What rated cable are people using? I went for 12AWG for he amp rating, and as this is used on the TZ85A, however I noticed yesterday the battery is 10AWG, a 3.3 nano-tech 4s 65 to 130c discharge.
My understanding with the rules meant 12AawG is suitable.
Please correct me if I need to upgrade before I complete everything
Cheers
On my bot it is 15mm HDPE sides and rear, which took a nibble from drumroll. The axe frame is made from 20mm HDPE which cracked after armour plate and before the front cross member due to a design flaw. That hit was on the last fight thanks to Binky. I use 12awg all fine with that.
Hmmm... perhaps i need to reconsider the sides even though they have hardox protection.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxamuslead
Will get some in now so i have the choice before i finally finish the build before Portsmouth.
I was considering machining the axe frame plates from 10mm aluminium, will see what cad says about weight and try it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COsLkUI8wQQ
here is the fights and battle damage of blacksmith,
5.26 for Drumrolls nibble
9.08 for Binkys bite.
If you want some more photos of the damage let me now
I would be interested in seing close-up of the crack on your 20mm section you mention please :) what was your design flaw? i think i found one in mine... finger joint in the wrong direction so it can 'open' if hit by an upward force as apposed to close in and spread load...
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See the where it is missing a bit ? that was what broke off (gave to Team Eventorizon as a trophy). It was simply too thin and dint have a alu block to hold it on.
On Forge Master (WIP replacement to Blacksmith) that issue has now been fixed
Hmmm... yeah that looks the same as the way I made my finger joint where top most part sits over the bottom, bottom should sit on top so force is not snapping...
May have to redesign some sections... well off to buy more material! Thank you for the pictures
Have been looking at the design and i know i have about 2 weeks to complete this thing to get some days driving with it before battle, but im looking to build some parts from thicker material in order to absorb impacts and increase strength.
I have just placed an order for 20mm and 15mm sheet material, mainly the 20mm for the robot and 15mm for more motor mounts i am selling. This should be arriving in 3 days time, meaning i have enough material now to do a few parts in 20mm.
Looking at the gear ratio for the axe mech i also waht to get this tested, incase i need bigger gears. currently a 5:1 ratio isnt great as its only 2 and half rotations of the motor to get full swing of axe... Will see if i can go bigger with the output gear or adjust the gear ratio, alternativly i may switch to a drill motor and rely on this for a gear down ratio. Not the ideal solution...
I really wanted all the gearing in the chasis footprint and not be exposed ontop. but this may have to change.
you getting on well,
See if this Axe sheet will help you it is from Team Run Amok.
http://runamok.tech/root/hammer_v1_2.xls
I been meaning to look at that spreadsheet but sadly it is blocked at work, and by the time i get home i have forgotten.
Anyways, today has been a buying day.
have finalised the base plate design and got that sent off for machining, hopefully receive it monday/tuesday next week.
i have bought the bearings for the axe gear stages, probably regret it, but there we go, have to try first!
And i have redone the plates i need to cnc out on my machine, my bed is A4 even though i bought an A3 machine...
i have decieded to remachine the rear rib piece to give me the 45mm clearence to allow my 40mm linak to sit comfortably if i need to add a lifter instead of the axe.
pictures! pictures to come shortly, as there mostly on my phone in another room...
So, alot has happened with one busy week and weekend!
I will just say that it is less than a week to go, sorry its 3 days away...
Hmmm...
And what a day to loose your transmitter
So update:
Front panels drilled using some solid cobolt drills from tool station
middle plate made and welded together so the front panel is nw a single plate.
Side panels made and welded together - todo weld on mounting plates and add screw holes (welded nuts)
Rear motor plate split and parts made to extend the base to add more mounting holes. Expect this area to take a beating
Axe arm made - making axe head tomorrow by welding plate hardox together
Panels for internal framework made and fitted.
BASE PLATE - omg what a lovely thing, Made by Adrian - contacted through the forums - weblink. Quick turnaround and good comms, also very good price. Thank you!
Screws made to hold wheels in place.
Spare wheels bought and nut inserts made
Gearing for the axe mech has been made, however im not happy with the gearing, sadly due to my design i wanted the gears not to be exposed, im left with a gear ratio of 6:1 so 3 revs of the motor is an axe hit... i need to wire this up to check but it should be much bigger than that to get the hit.
And finally... the electrics.
Now i have the framework done, i can get to finally fitting the electronics. Thats right, its only had a test drive with bits stuck in with tape... not a fully finished job.
Thnk i have my work cut out! and some late nights at work comming.....
PICS COMMING
I dont know what to say...
I seem to have lost my controller and my ESC setup and cannot find them anywhere... not home, not work, will be checking the makerspace (Swindon) tonight, but these are vital parts and i cannot compete without these...
I do have some Electronize esc at 30Amp and an old 40Mhz TX, but unsure if i will get time to fit all this in...
Oh no, I hope you find them! Made me a little paranoid about where my weapon circuitry is now. :S
good news!
Just checked my battery bag... FOUND THE ESCS!
So as long as i can find my vintage failsafe units, i can run using 40Mhz TX so should be ok~!
Further update... (and i feel very silly)
I went into a room at work which I don't frequent that often, which, however, stores the large postal scales i use to weigh my bot, and...
HURRAH! on the side is my Spektum Dx7 transmitter!
Yay its all go again!
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Originally Posted by Roboteernat
you lied to us Nat, there are not photos
Funny enough I'm on my phone uploading some pictures :-)
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Looks great how powerful is that weapon motor
I cannot remember off the top of my head, but im uploading a test video i made a couple of nights ago
https://youtu.be/m8Yqug4WOxw
I am cutting it fine!
looks cool, btw Totally jelly of that square being cut on a (cnc?) mill. *CRY* i hate doing by hand and i need loads
The cnc panels I was lucky enough to have bought an A4 cutting routing machine when i was at uni, only now has it actually had some proper use!
The base board was too large to fit on my bed so i gave Adrian a shout and he was able to machine the base at a very good price.
He advertises his services here: http://www.fightingrobots.co.uk/thre...inting-service and can be found on ebay, multirotor and RC car forums, so if you need anything big, give him a shout.
Well, as its been a couple of weeks since the last update and of course, Portsmouth Robot extreme, i should really update with what happened!
Let me start with Friday before the Saturdays shows...
This was the current situation:
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This was at 2pm. In bits, and overweight by 215 grams.
I set to rebuilding the frame and decieded to machine out some pockets within the aluminium central rib and the top triangular HDPE parts to reduce some weight in the areas that wouldnt be so much of a concern.
Whilst i was assembling, i also thought that the side armour plates, which by design had 3 brackets and 6 M8 bolts holding it onto the HDPE side panels, could be made less heavy. Off came 1 bracket and 2 bolts. The brackets were from welded 3mm Hardox so this was quite a weight saving.
Also decided that around the rear mounting plate i could do away with some plastic as it didnt really protect anything once
covered by the armour.
I needed to add grip to the wheels as they were riding on the mold line in the centre of the tyre. I bought from the carboot sale an old Rasp and using the lathe to turn the wheel, i skimmed off the surface to leave a flat grippy edge. blue fine rubber powder EVERYWHERE!
As it was 10pm by now, i needed to leave work, so off to makerspace in Swindon for some further grinding away of Hardox. this is where i ground some more armour down from the front wedge so it was level to the ground as apposed to riding on it, And also from the central hole in the rear Hardox motor cover. In case this wasnt enough, i ground down some detail into the side armour plates so it would reduce some weight, but also add to its asthetics, making it look more like a shell from a snail.
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2am came.
time to head home, hopefully the evenings weight shifting was enough to allow me t fit under the 13.6KG weight limit and legally compete.
Extreme Robots.
Now, im going to have a few words in this next para which may be a bit of a shock, i dont tend to moan publicly but things were just not as i think they should be.
10am, i drop by my Fiances mums house and head to Mount Batten Centre, many childhood memmories flash back to me including rolling down the bumps on the side!
Anyway... without my team tshirt (still in car)
I follow in the direction of well known roboteers into the side door.
I walk in, carrying nothing, i walk to the center of the pit area. no one batters an eyelid.
I walk back out of the pit area and back to my car...
...
I pick up a bag of tools - not knowing exactly what i needed or what to expect i brought everything in the car!
I walk into the door, carrying some tools. I walk to the cebntre of the Pit. no one there from Extreme Robots to see, sign in, receive days procedures from, register into a fire list, be told where fire exits are, procedures of the day, times of things, if food was available... nothing.
Now to me, as a newbee, this is odd.
In fact it came across as extremly bad organising on the part of the ER staff. The first time i walked in as a newbee, i was expecting something like a desk to sign in, and receive a piece of paper that says hello, thank you for coming with your robot, this is how we work at these events. Please read this nicely laminated sheet indicating fire procedures and sign here to say you understand them and that you acknowledge there is no responsibility on ER that should your robot die, its not their problem.
Nothing...
As a regular attendee, then this may just be an expected process of how the day works, but for a newbee, i would have expected some sort of organisation. quite frankly it came across as extremely bad organisation.
Edit: considering it was the roboteers themselves offering their bots to the arena giving Robot Extreme a show to put on to a paying audience, there needed to be some formality which didn't seem to be there. Even just a 'Thank you for coming' would have been nicer. Lunch was alright though, thank you.
rant over...
So as i stood around wondering what the heck i do,a fellow roboteer, one of the nicest guys i have met came and gave me some help, said about where to set up a desk space etc. Thanks Greg!
so with that, i went and set up a bench next to Greg and Dave - turned out Dave was working for ER.
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Bench setup, and now... that job i didnt get to do last night... the electrics...
I still had to finish off wiring the bot up so with the help of Daves soldering iron i managed to wire in the fuses and get the thing working.
As i put the finishing touches to it, one of the ER staff cam round shouting for Feathers to get ready.
Sadly i was not in time for the first battle having not completed the failsafe section of the tech check.
The first Melee battle went on and i decieded to test the weight of the robot using the scales outside for gas filling to see what its official weight was now it had all been completed...
13.5Kg!!! yes!
Once the first featherweight battle is completed, Dave comes by and completes the tech check. Pass! With the encouraging words that its not strick on these shows about the weight limit, so there is a little bit of flex. this wasnt a knockout tournament. aahhhhhh
so, its now a waiting game for the battles for the afternoon show.
My team mates come by, Fiancee and her mum, they are given a nice tour by Greg, Thank you! and shown the pits and Clare was chuffed she recognised people from the TV!
All of a sudden clare comes running over saying they have called last call for the Feathers.
I panic and grab my bits but forget the link.
Clare gets that for me and were in the pits ready to go...
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Battle.
Drive seems to work well, looks like i have a bit of control sticking sometimes, but im impressed about how well it is going over the arena floor. i have had no tests with this steel flooring.
managed to get the wedge to scoop up a few high riding competitors but BAM... NO AXE!
After the battle, i had a look at the axe to see why this wasnt working. Turned out the decision to use grub screws failed, predictably to be honest. they had come out of the 1st stage chain pulley with the motor shaft. The shaft had a flat but the screw had just come undone.
Time to drill. I drilled through the motor shaft with a 2.5mm drill bit and tapped an M3 bolt through it. This wasnt going to come out.
The link cable had also been split, this was because it was exposed at the top of the bot. Greg suggests using cable ties to poke out and to allow the wire to be folded internally. I make this great mod and patch up the wire.
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Charged batteries and ready for day 2.
Day 2.
My brother comes to watch the morning show on the Sunday, bringing my nephew along too. They were told to buy tickets on the door that morning through contact on Facebook, however sadly when they got there, they had sold out.
I took my robot outside to show my nephew so he could see it whilst all the action went on inside.
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He was excited! I said i would bring it round to his house after the day so we can have a drive and smash stuff up in the garden, he wasn't so disappointed then.
Battle time.
This time the axe worked!
made a heck of a loud bang as the axe hit on its return firing. this was because it sits lower than the base plate!
Drove around a bit, avoided being flipped on the floor flipper and other robots, but i did get overturned in the battle, so tried using the axe to self right. It seems to have worked?! but i can be certain as another bot may have assisted.
Then i started to loose drive in the right hand wheel. Uhoh, batteries?
The other side was fine so maybe not, maybe a broken gearbox.
Turned out, my motors gearbox pins that held in the 2nd stage came out, allowing the gears to incorrectly mesh. The torque setting also loosened making the drive skip as the motor rotated.
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Luckily i had some m3x35 bolts and could replace the pins to hold in the gears permanently. The torque setting, i didn't want to use the grubscrew mod for my first experience in case i broke something. so the torque setting loosened.
As i had some grub screws i decided to give it a go and locking this off. This meant a complete disassembly of the RHS of the bot to get the motor out.
In doing so, i dropped one of the balls from the setting ring. maybe next time i will do this. i put it all back and just retighten the torque setting.
Ready for the 4th battle...
Go!
Continued - max character count reached.
Axe chopping, driving OK ish with my lack of experience. i get shunted pushed and meet the lovely Red lobster robot who grapples with me
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Just as the hydraulic crusher robot (INSERT NAME HERE) turns around...
Its as if the lobster bot holds me as a sacrifice, the hydraulic crusher drives into my front and starts compressing its jaw.
Thoughts of when i went up against Tiberius 3 in Series 6 of Robot Wars springs to mind - although i didnt get pinched, just went up against him. Supernova was the baddie in that fight...
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I flail my axe in an attempt to get the hold to stop. were both lifted onto our sides by another bot driving into us and the grip is released.
Am i alive?
Axe works, drive works, yes i survived! The bot to avoid and i got it!
I drive around a bit more and axe at other bots. i drive around the flipper as its activated, turn too soon and BAM! im stuck! thats right, im stuck under the returning floor flipper. Game over for me!
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As i wait for the tech crews to retrieve my bot, a guy comes over to me all apologetic and excited saying he hopes he hasnt done too much damage! the driver (NAME) great chap, No i say, its still driving, its all in the nature of the game!
cant wait to see what has happened!
so get the bot, place back onto the bench to assess damage.
The hydraulic crusher managed to get enough reach to get to my HDPE plastic panels at the top. The ones where 2 days ago i removed some material to save weight.
(NAME) comes over to look, and explains he was only using half crushing power as it was a live show as apposed to combat.
PHEW i think.
The point where he would have continued to pinch down on would have been the front of my Axe drive motor. Although it was free from an old scooter, it would have been a £35 repair.
Anything further back would have been straight into my Electronize ESC.
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What is noticeable in the 2nd picture above is that the support given from the wheel surround framework meant the flex was limited to only a small section of the plate. I think this strength gave more resistance to the hydraulic system meaning it could have saved the motor from this lower pressure crush.
Further investigation shows that the HDPE bracket around the motor had a very small flat from the pressure of the plate, and that the crusher didn't get through the whole of the HDPE plate, so damage was minimised to just aluminium plate and HDPE.
I think i can save some weight in some areas still meaning the top 2 aluminium plates will now be replaced with some Hardox.
Battles over and damage done. am very impressed about how the bot went and those niggling little things that showed allowed me to improve. I have the bug again. Im already looking forward to the next show!
This time i know what to expect and know how the show works, and that i dont need to bring plate Hardox, 500x500 sheet HDPE spares with me in case!
And, my nephews, brother and his wife loved seeing the robot take it out on an aluminium can and some ice cream boxes in their garden!
Then the battery died.
It is always a little weird the first time around - In light of no "official" sign in desk, I simply made myself known to the Robots Live! guys at Grantham 2017 when I arrived. I also arrived super early so I could get to grips with the process. The number of event crew at live events is actually fairly low.Quote:
As a regular attendee, then this may just be an expected process of how the day works, but for a newbee, i would have expected some sort of organisation. quite frankly it came across as extremely bad organisation.
I arrivied following the time from the email, but regarding fire exits, toilet facilities and signing in i would have thought that needed to be done.
As for a stranger wandering off the street into the pits, there wasn't a word said from any of the staff. I did speak to the organiser of the day regarding testing, but it was clear they were busy with stuff.
Shall see how it is at Gloucestershire. Im taking a part in a fundraising event for Rowans Hospice this weekend so this weekend is out.
There is typically a safety briefing where everyone is called to hear this sort of information from the EO, did that not happen? It's happened at every EXR and RL event I've ever been to (and more). As for the strangers thing, I believe this was the reason why EXR encourages the use of team shirts, so people can be identified as roboteers from other people, like the VIPs and so on.
There wasnt a safety briefing as far as i was aware, and i got there before the 10.30 time indicated on the email. The Tshirt was in the car, turned out to use my old series 6 t-shirt in the end. I wasnt wearing it only because i had just arrived and wanted to know what was going on.
Maybe it was a one off, but as it was my first time, i wasnt aware of their previous processes.
I remember attending the Roaming Robots event at the 02 in London
and missing the safety talk-so I asked another roboteer if I had missed
anything important and they said no.
I ended up been shouted at because I didn't follow procedure.
So organisers -its more professional to keep all informed of procedure
and safety aspects.
Roboteers- push for the information