Re: A123 bankrupt - time to look at LiPo's for Heavies
marvelous, now can we stop dragging our heels and get lipos into heavies right away?
As I've said all along, the featherweights experience far more in the way of knocks and G forces than any of the heavies do and they have been successfully run for years now.
Re: A123 bankrupt - time to look at LiPo's for Heavies
Thank's ED
It's good to know that all manufactures and their products even if they are all the same technology are not all the same :idea:
Perhaps A123 are going bust because they don't hack it in the real world.
I personaly think the LiPo battery would be ok in heavies. but I don't run the shows.
The point about the EO's not allowing the technology in their shows when this was last discussed was not addressed. :shock:
Could it be you are looking to accelerate this technology because Storm 2 is old, out classed, slow and needs a boost?
Lights touch paper and stands well back. :uhoh: :uhoh:
Re: A123 bankrupt - time to look at LiPo's for Heavies
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Originally Posted by craig_colliass
Could it be you are looking to accelerate this technology because Storm 2 is old, out classed, slow and needs a boost?
I'm not sure that changing Storm II to LiPo's would improve things right now, the A123's are delivering what we need, and after much tweaking we seem to have a well balanced system again between motors, gear ratio, wiring, batteries and speed controllers. The last thing I would want to do with Storm II is offer even more current to the motors. We've also just invested in another complete set of packs for Storm II, so not going to be moving away from them just yet.
However if the A123 supply dries up, and other varients of the chemistry aren't up to the job, then where do we (all) turn.
Re: A123 bankrupt - time to look at LiPo's for Heavies
Big nipper offered to do the trial ages ago now, and they have been in loads of fights and demo's and not had a problem (or a fire)... so come on FRA what else do you want to see?
Re: A123 bankrupt - time to look at LiPo's for Heavies
Like any new technology safety is paramount. LiPos have demonstrated stable operation but only over a limited timescale. The trial in heavyweights only starting in March after all!
Full details will be released once the trials have been completed.
Re: A123 bankrupt - time to look at LiPo's for Heavies
Kane perhaps the FRA could share why that timeline is ?
What are these timelines, where are they published
When does the trial end ?
How long after the end will the FRA publish views
Can we expedite the trial. For example if we are saying we need to run for a year which is 'x' fights, could we ensure that Big Nipper completes the fights sooner, or is the trial based on duration and no relevance to fights ?
Sorry to push, but there appears to be
- no dates published or otherwise
- no published test cases (what is it exactly that is being tested)
- no defined success criteria for what 'good' looks like
- no feedback on how the trial is going
- no detail as to when it will end
- no detail as to when recommendations will be out
I think the roboteers are owed more than a one-liner here
Re: A123 bankrupt - time to look at LiPo's for Heavies
May I ask why Storm II was not invited participate in the Lipo trials?
Seems a bit odd such a powerful all electric machine getting left out. Storm II could actually run a lipo into the ground.
If it's a competition thing, I'm sure Ed would handicap himself back to the A123s. They would be well rested
Re: A123 bankrupt - time to look at LiPo's for Heavies
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Originally Posted by psychostorm
May I ask why Storm II was not invited participate in the Lipo trials?
Seems a bit odd such a powerful all electric machine getting left out. Storm II could actually run a lipo into the ground.
If it's a competition thing, I'm sure Ed would handicap himself back to the A123s. They would be well rested
The FRA was approached with a proposal from Big Nipper and Robots Live. Roaming Robots have since agreed to allow Big Nipper to run LiPo's at their events.
Re: A123 bankrupt - time to look at LiPo's for Heavies
Guys let's not head off track here, Team Storm never asked to be involved in LiPo trials so that's a total red herring.
However I do think that my questions above around the 'trials' are valid and it would be good to get some feedback in answer to them, perhaps if Kane is ok to defend why Storm II isn't trialling the batteries, he could also provide detail around the trial covering
- no dates published or otherwise
- no published test cases (what is it exactly that is being tested)
- no defined success criteria for what 'good' looks like
- no feedback on how the trial is going
- no detail as to when it will end
- no detail as to when recommendations will be out
That way we know where we stand, understand the aims of the trial and can all assist if there is anything we can do to expedite things.
Re: A123 bankrupt - time to look at LiPo's for Heavies
Please review the AGM minutes. Further details will be announced to FRA members.