Talk to the FRA

Any change to the weight ruling for shufflebots would have to go to the committee. What we're looking for here is clarification of the definition of a walker so that if anybody decides to build one they can do so & know it wont be classed as a shufflebot

I didn't start this topic with the aim of changing rules per se, I did so because I'd been approached by a team thinking about building a walker and they didn't want turn up to an event, have it classed as a shufflebot & then disqualified for being overweight

John

What did robotwars rules say? It would be nice to see a walker be competing well, something like mechadon in a featherweight would look awesome :proud:

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something like mechadon in a featherweight would look awesome :proud:

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I think a baby snake would look better. :D

Here's the RFL's definition.

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Non-wheeled: non-wheeled robots have no rolling elements in contact with the floor and no continuous rolling or cam operated motion in contact with the floor, either directly or via a linkage. Motion is €œcontinuous€ if continuous operation of the drive motor(s) produces continuous motion of the robot. Linear-actuated legs and novel non-wheeled drive systems may qualify for this bonus.

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As far as Robot Wars stood on the walker issue, I'm not totally sure but I will endeavour to find out. Maybe Jonno could enlighten us as to Derek Foxwell's definition, as he appeared to make the decisions for Mentorn

John

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What did robotwars rules say?

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are we not playing by our rules now ? its RR or RL or RC want or need ?

and if we did we would have active weapons ;) lol

bearing in mind the issue of cost of building onlky to be disqualified etc which has been raised is it not sensible to put a proceedure in place where a mechanism design can be approved eg: three comitee members coming up with a unanamous decision or recommendations for modification or four out of five comitee members saying it's a walker.

John L - It's worth looking at what Robot Wars had as a rule because they have probably had more time, and more people to come up with something that works - If we find the rule and it sounds sensible and simple then it's worth using, if not then it might be worth adapting, or as you say make a whole new one.

http://members.toast.net/joerger/rules/RW7_rules.html

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2.1.2 Legged Robots ('Walkers') can weigh up to 200kgs/441lbs in the Heavyweight class. Walkers that employ a rotary camshaft to actuate feet will not qualify for the weight advantage (shufflebots). No walker must employ any device other than moveable legs to support its weight. No type of rolling or sliding mechanism will be allowed

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If we find the rule and it sounds sensible and simple then it's worth using, if not then it might be worth adapting, or as you say make a whole new one.

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i my book rules are for breaking ;)