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Could someone have a look at the last 3 editions to my vapour team please?:)

Robot Name: Forza
Shape: A cone (like Typhoon 2), but with the top 15cm cut off
Weight: 110kg
Length: 85cm
Width: 85cm
Height: 35cm
Motivation: 2 x internal titanium vulcanised tracks
Power: 2 x S28-400 mags at 24v, 9HP
Armour: The whole shell is 4mm hardox, and the base is 7mm HDPE
Weaponry:
1) This robot is an FBS, but the top doesn€™t spin (where the point is cut-off). The rest of the 48kg shell spins up to a maximum 4000rpm via 2 LEM-130s at 36v, when at maximum rpm it can deliver a 200Kj hit, but it would self-destruct so it is kept down to about 2400rpm, where it can deal out 125Kj. The shell is covered in 15 hooked blades, each made entirely of tungsten and weighing in at 1kg each, they are all welded as part of the shell rather than surgically attached to stop them coming off, also there is plenty of shock proofing to protect from this weapon
Speed: 15mph
Ground Clearance: 8mm
Turning Circle: 0
Srimech: There is a linear actuated bar on the top of the robot, the part that doesn€™t spin
Colour: The shell is painted all the colours of the rainbow in sickeningly bright and vibrant paint, and all the blades are sparkling gold, so that when the robot spins it looks very beautiful (and might make the opposition drivers throw up)
Strengths: Very powerful weaponry
Weaknesses: High ground clearance

Robot Name: Pi
Shape: Box with a small wedge at the front, but this is not visible under the discs
Weight: 100kg
Length: 65cm
Width: 75cm
Height: 15cm
Motivation: 2 x internal invertible CNC Aluminium wheels with vulcanised tyres
Power: 2 x S28-400s at 24v
Armour: 4mm hardox all over, 5mm titanium skirts
Weaponry:
1) Twin 15kg each discs at the front of the robot, each powered by an S28-400 at 24v and providing 25Kj each, spinning inwards towards each other and a combined 50Kj hit, each is made of hardox and has two Hypno-Disc style tungsten teeth with serrated edges, welded on as part of the discs to stop them being ripped off
Speed: 15mph
Ground Clearance: 0 at the front due to low 1cm titanium wedge under the discs, effectively 0 at sides and rear due to hinged skirts that flop over if the robot is inverted
Turning Circle: 0
Srimech: Invertible
Colour: Black bodywork with an evil eye on each disc
Strengths: Double weaponry
Weaknesses: Not extremely powerful by vapour standards, in weaponry and in drive

Robot Name: Hercules
Shape: Reverse wedge
Weight: 110kg
Length: 80cm
Width: 90cm
Height: 40cm at top of wedge, sloping down to 20cm
Motivation: 2 x front internal Drill-Zilla style shuffling feet
Power: 2 x S28-400s at 24v
Armour: 8mm titanium on sides and rear, 4mm titanium on top, 4mm hardox front and wedges
Weaponry:
1) The main weapon is the front, vertical hardox disc, drilled with speed holes and weighing in at 35kg and spun by a LEM-200 at 48v, it has two tungsten teeth, curved to rip with serrated edges they are welded on as part of the disc to stop them coming off easily, the disc spin upwards to flip as well as rip and deals out 86Kj per hit to cause some serious damage, the disc is not higher than the front of the robot so when flipped it won€™t hit the floor
2) The front wedges are either side of the disc to allow the blades to come through the middle and strike opponents
Speed: 15mph
Ground Clearance: 0 at front due to wedges, 8mm at sides and rear
Turning Circle: 0
Srimech: On the top of the robot there is a linear actuated arm
Colour: Bright green with red dashes
Strengths: Powerful weaponry
Weaknesses: Ground Clearance at sides and rear

1. they are custom 5KG disks that look like the real thing
2. 2MM chassis and 4mm hardox
3. Doesnt it get an extra 10KG for having tracks?

clearance is now zero and ill will change to a better type of battery like... Hawkers?
and the disk is actually from Kishar not Dragonstrike, WHOOPS!!

(Message edited by neontetra23 on July 14, 2008)

I dont think two Hawkers will provide the energy you need either, although youd have to ask Leo about that. Id go for something like 6 NiCad packs or an engine to drive the weapons, which would let you get away with less batteries. And it gets an extra 10kg, yes, but theres still 50 other kilograms that are unaccounted for :proud:

A 5kg disc is also slightly pitiful in terms of inertia and damage compared to the weapons most spinner vapours use, which are in the region of 15-25kgs. May I ask why you want discs that are exactly like the ones on those robots anyway?

they look cool

And you cant come up with cool designs yourself?

with GC we mostly talk about the clearance of your body, a box in this case

1 mm isnt high by any means, 0 mm makes you unmoveable

in the end a disc is just a cylinder with some teeth, theres nothing wrong with your disc looking like a certain other disc, but directly copying it is a little odd to me

As for the part about Hawkers, that depends on the type of Hawkers you mean. There are many different Hawker batteries out there.

Hawkers are basically the best of the best in Sealed Lead Acid (SLA) batteries, but that means they are heavy.

I still use a couple of 17Ah Hawker Oddeseys in Mantis.

Liam, Typhoon 2 was a lot higher than 35cm, and the selfrighting bar would have to be insanely large to work (T2 didnt have a selfrighting device because of that). You would be better off by just attaching a bar on the spinning part that just beats the robot upright when you spin it.

For the record, the original Leprosy had a self-righting mechanism, and it was a full body spinner.