No Toy Robotics

Hi all finally decided on NO TOY ROBOTICS as my team name, just some quick info on the current builds.
ceros - all electronics ok waiting on cash for optipower batts and co2 bottle valves, ec5s and all cabling including battery for robotic installed or at least planned

No toy, was a bit more terminal then It looked at gsl , ls4 cracked the chassis. lipo test at 22v been carried out all ok but decided for total rebuild starting in the next week or so, basic chassis already built, chain driven 4wd using 3mm stainless steel bulkheads ,6mm hdpe base and 10 mm nylon side armour , front and back armour currently 16mm hdpe , axe assembly slight redesign too 1 drive motor but its a 320w cim drive motor rated at 21v ,

quick question has the dx6i problem with botbitz tz85 been fixed yet

All sounds good, just might be worth mentioning that as armour, nylon isn't great. It cracks. 10mm HDPE sides would be much more likely to last.

I agree with Ellis. Conker 1's base was nylon and it shattered, splitting the robot clean in 2. The HDPE may have looked like butter when it had finished but it was still in one piece!

Sounding good Adam. If that new axe motor is anything like the scooter motor I've got in Onyx, you're gonna have a lot of fun with the new setup :)

And the Spektrum/TZ85 mixing issue appears to have been solved: http://www.fightingrobots.co.uk/thre...-spektrum-dx6i
Haven't programmed any myself yet (next couple of days) but those who have done haven't reported any problems with it.

Slight progress chassis ready with 4wd system working well 2 speed 900 copies just ordered for the drive system, just need to look at hacking some tz85 next

speed 900s here and look great, just offering up to the chassis will be very tight on weight again, possible mods already got some nice 3mm aluminium to replace the 6mm hdpe base for extra rigidity and then 10mm nylon braces for the stainless steel inner frame, the nylon on no toy stood up well to ls4 and drumroll so will just add a side protection plate on the nylon sides. weight saving on the axe again like before champs . All parts and basic sub frame already adds up to 12 kg ish,
wish me luck might need some helium ballons

Wasn't No Toy fat at the last champs?

Where did you find some 900 clones?

Yes we were 350g over, stupid scales will try to be under this time .motors are off eBay made a model tug boat and large bait boats will add a link when I get to my computer

Cheers

Are they called "torpedo 800/850s" by any chance? Those might be our choice for T3's drive.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009126089...84.m1423.l2649

made by caldercraft

rang the owner of the shop has sold them for many years has multiple orders by many other companies and has had no returns , I have not tested them yet but look strong and well built bracket also well made

Ooh, I forgot those existed! Please share how the work for you, being such low rpm is potentially very handy for T3, means it doesn't have to be uncontrollably fast on a single stage reduction.

Nice find!

just found these valves, these should fit the co2 fire extinguisher bottles as still require two valves, all you hw guys please comment
http://www.weldinggases.co.uk/index....ve&_a=category

I can't open the description, it looks fine has it got a burst disk ? If its good I will get one aswell.

only one reply on link any other takers,
Quick update modding no toys axe reduced weight of axe arm and head by about 150gram and new axe a frame will be about 1kg less then the old design and stronger, might use them speed 900s for the axe still not dead set on the design as yet

What you competing with at the weekend? The current/older design?

Had to make some steel brackets to mount my wheels on Onyx (the nut inserts had worn out), now back up to 14kg though! Glad it's only whiteboards at Deeside.

Hopefully the old notoy but not signed up incase its damaged got to find bits buried in the garage somewhere

Gonna be plenty of axes on show this weekend by the looks of things!

Well Drumroll's not coming so if you do find all the bits at least the robot will stay in one piece this time :lol:

No Toy lives spent last hour reassembling and tidying up damaged body panels, test drive a and axe test all good. all batteries etc on charge cycle to regain full capacity from sitting idol since GSL.

bring it on Jamie ;)

Also more parts arrived today for Ceros 4 midi fuses and 1 fuse distribution board, looking at fusing both batteries and both motors , also some nice new solder and flux to help solder the ec5 connectors. Any more advice on the bottle valve link above ?

Xerox update both drive gearboxes removed and checked decided to rebuild using larger shafts and bearings will also be easily removable, bearings and aluminium on order. Ram opened cleaned and spring removed all ok and closes by own arm weight
,battery location and fitting sorted got order form and price from optipower. Photos to follow soon including fliper snow plough design

Ceros stupid phone just sitting at work in tea bar

another co2 valve link in turkey, looks cheap still struggling to get valves easily
http://www.aluminiumcylinders.com/Fi...i,CO2%20tüpü

Looks like it has a tapered thread (3/4" bspp) so wouldn't fit most modern fire extinguisher bottles found in the UK. You need one with an M25 thread I imagine.

some photos of recent work and original gearbox under drive testing was weak at best only having very undersized bearings all new much larger bearings and mounting system in design process and ordered.

http://www.technobotsonline.com/tech...ay-type-a.html

these would be good for the burket valves using two to control full flip and self right flip using a timer relay to close exhaust valve after 3 seconds to save power

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how many people use gyros and would this be any good something I have never used only when in helis,

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...arehouse_.html

bearings fitted too ceros but very little clearance just ordered different housings to accommodate more tyre clearance

who likes the wedge design

Great looking design, wish I had the time and money to make a full metal bot. Really looking forward to bringing my nylon machine to the FW champs this year.

I'm a bit out of the loop, what feathers are you running at the minute? It'd be good to have another fight with No Toy, last years bout was a bit lame!

The flipper robot looks awesome. Is it a feather or heavy? I can't tell the scale! really fit looking robot though!

If by the flipper you mean Ceros, then it should be a heavy.

Glad to see you reviving Ceros, it was always one of my favorite UK bots. good luck getting it finished.

is there any 3.2mm hardox floating around, looking for ceros body armour panels. If not found a goos source of 4.5mm aluminium chequer plate which would do the trick that should keep out thors hammer !!!

also been trying to find out the density of hardox for weight calculation but cant seem to find it

They don't give a desnity I run it as 8000kg/m^3. Its fractionally lighter but its always good to over estimate a fraction IMO.

when i use online weight calculators for pieces of material i just put stainless steel in as material... its very close on density and comes out right when i actually make what i designed in hardox.

looking for 3.2mm hardox 600x300 ish for the front flipper scoop

optipower lipo batts arrived and look great just spent an hour making the aluminium batt mount assembly, 3mm ali bent into u channel with mounting lugs, planning on using some sort of vibration mounting to the body silicone washers or rubber to help avoid shock. Still deciding on new gearbox design for ease of manufacturing as no longer have access to miller etc

Quick update battery box and mounting system complete mounted at top by springs and 6mm hdpe back allows flex and movement of the box but trapped within an outer frame to avoid coming loose just requires the foam sticking inside, battery fuse box assembly and new power cabling mounted and protected, armour mounts cut and 4mm aluminium plate ordered.

4mm aluminium is thin but all the weight I have left should bend and buckle under thors hammer but hopefully noy split as it should bend first.

gearbox design sorted just waiting on time to weld the mountings up.

test drive hopefully with full armour etc the next 4 weeks

vids and photos to come this weekend pos

Can the manual pressure relief valve be opened using a tool ie, t handle socket
struggling to find and easy access point for the valve handle without removing huge pieces of armour plating

Quick update Ceros back on track Roboteq had a full motor test today and it works !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
No gearbox's fitted so not under load but its a start. Also today mounted new removable link, fuse box, battery assy, twin solenoid for burketts and tx in a box.

This sounds really good, is it hard bending the ally?